Part One:
Identify the S.O.A.P.S. for each side of the battle. Label each as Shakespeare and Dr, Seuss.
Part Two:
Identify at least two logical fallacies that each author's side makes. State each logical fallacy and then state why it is a logical fallacy.
Response due before class on Thursday.
Classmate response: instead of a response to a classmate, respond to yourself. Our discussion on Wednesday will have clarified some of the fallacies and the S.O.A.P.S. If you feel that you correctly labeled everything, then congratulate yourself on a job well-done. However, if you want to add to parts One or Two in order to create a more complete analysis, then this is your chance. Your initial response and response to yourself will be graded as follows:
Initial response: 2 points
Following directions in initial response: 2 points
Response to self on time: 2 points
Response to self accurately identifies mistakes in original post (if any): 4 points
Response due by 5pm on Friday, October 24th.
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ReplyDeleteShakespare:
ReplyDeleteS- who's the better author
O- rap battle
A- Dr. Suess
P- to persuade he's the better author
S- William Shakespeare
Logical Fallacies:
Technical Jargon- when he raps fast he uses fancy words I don't even know what they mean
Non-sequitur: when he brings up the fact that Dr. Seuss is not a doctor
Dr. Seuss:
S- who's the better author
O- rap battle
A- Shakespeare
P- to persuade he's the better author
S- The Cat in the Hat and Things 1 and 2
Logical Fallacies:
Ad Hominem: when he makes fun of Shakespeare's writing saying he bores people to death.
Begging the question: most of his argument he's making fun of Shakespeare instead of giving evidence
I am unsure of my Occasion. I was hoping Chris would see something I didn't . There were other logical fallacies that I didn't mention because we were only asked to list 2, but I'm pretty sure everyone else listed the ones I did not.
DeleteDr. Seuss:
ReplyDeleteS- Who is a better journalist
O- Epic rap battle of history
A- Shakespeare
P- To get Shakespeare to believe that Dr. Seuss is the better journalist
S- Thing 1 and thing 2, and the cat in the hat
Logical Fallacies:
Hasty generalization: saying that Shakespeare is a boring author
Begging the question: Dr. Seuss arguing that he is the better author without providing legit proof for why he is
Shakespeare:
S- Who is a better journalist
O- Epic rap battle of history
A- Dr. Seuss
P- To get Dr. Seuss to believe that Shakespeare is the better author
S- Shakespeare, William
Logical Fallacies:
Non-sequitur: when Shakespeare says that Dr. Seuss isn't even a real doctor
Technical Jargon: rapping really fast, and using big words so that Dr. Seuss can’t really understand
Shakespare:
ReplyDeleteS- Dr. Seuss isn't as good of an author as Shakespeare
O- rap battle
A- Dr. Suess' characters (Nice Peter and Epic Lloyd)
P- determine who's the better author/ insult each other
S- William Shakespeare (George Watsky)
Logical Fallacies:
Red herring: Saying that his work is by a kindergartener on acid
Non-sequitur: says that Seuss is a crook and he probably wrote twilight too
Dr. Seuss:
S- Shakespeare isn't as good of an author as Dr. Seuss
O- rap battle
A- Shakespeare (George Watsky)
P- determine who's the better author/ insult each other
S- The Cat in the Hat and Things 1 and 2 (Nice Peter and Epic Lloyd)
Logical Fallacies:
False Authority: the speakers are characters not experts so why listen to them
Begging the question: a lot of it is just insults with no evidence
I think the soaps are right for both sides. The red herring fallacy might be wrong. I want to replace it with non sequitur: Dr. Seuss isn't a real doctor.
DeleteShakespeare
ReplyDeleteS- Dr. Seuss is not as good as Shakespeare
O- Rap battle
A- Dr. Seuss (characters Nice Peter and Epic Lloyd)
P- To decide who is a better writer.
S- William Shakespeare
Logical Fallacies-
Technical Jargon- Raps really fast and uses big words neither I nor Dr. Seuss understands.
Non-Sequitur- Dr. Seuss is not a real doctor.
Dr. Seuss
S-Shakespeare is not as good as Dr. Seuss
O- Rap battle
A- William Shakespeare (George Watsky)
P- To decide who is a better writer.
S- Dr. Seuss (The Cat in the Hat and Thing 1&2)
Logical Fallacies-
False Authority- The characters are not real so they do not have the credibility.
Begging the Question- Not giving evidence why he thinks he is better.
I think that I grasped the concept of the S.O.A.P.S well and think that I labeled the correct fallacies.
DeleteShakespeare:
ReplyDeleteS- Shakespeare is better than Dr. Seuss
O- "Epic Rap Battles of History"
A- "Dr. Seuss"
P- To argue that De. Seuss is not a good author and to prove that he (Shakespeare) is better.
S- "Shakespeare"
Logical Fallacies:
Red Herring- pretty much everything he says during the fast part of his rap
Technical Jargon - during the fast part of his rap be says a lot of big words that don't really mean a lot in his argument, but he uses them to sound more sophisticated
Dr. Seuss:
S- Dr. Seuss is better than Shakespeare
O- "Epic Rap Battles of History"
A- "Dr. Seuss"
P- To argue that Shakespeare is not a good author and he (Dr. Seuss) is getting upstaged.
S- "Cat in the Hat" and "Things 1 and 2"
Logical Fallacies:
False Authority- Stating that his stuff is so boring that Horton and Cindy Lou Who don't want to hear him.
Begging the Question - When he says that Shakespeare bores people to death, this is an opinion and it cannot be proved or disproved.
I think I did well identifying the SOAPS and logical fallacies.
DeleteDr. Seuss
ReplyDeleteS-who is the better author
O-epic rap battle of history
A-Shakespeare
P-trying to prove to Shakespeare that he is the better author
S-the cat in the hat, thing 1 and thing 2
Logical fallacies:
Sweeping Generalization- saying that Shakespeare is boring
False Authority- the speakers are characters so they can’t be experts on the subject
Shakespeare:
S-who is the better author
O-epic rap battle of history
A-Dr. Seuss
P-to try and prove to Dr. Seuss that he is the better author
S-William Shakespeare
Logical fallacies:
Non sequitur – saying that Dr. Seuss isn’t a real doctor
Technical Jargon- rapping so fast it’s hard to understand unless you read the words and then using big words that most people don’t know the meaning of
Shakespeare:
ReplyDeleteS- who is superior author
O- Epic Rap Battles of History
A- youtube, Dr Seuss
P- to prove who is a better author
S- Shakespeare
Snob Appeal: using pretentious language
Flattery: appeals to intelligence by mocking Dr Seuss' language
Dr. Seuss:
S- who is the superior author
O- Epic Rap Battles of History
A- youtube, Shakespeare
P- to prove who is better author
S- Dr. Seuss
Inappropriate Appeal- identifies with his characters as if they were real
False Authority- calls Shakespeare boring, which cannot be proven
Shakespeare
ReplyDeleteS- Dr. Suess is better than Shakespeare
O- Rap battle
A- Dr. Suess
P- To prove that he is the best author.
S- William Shakespeare
Logical Fallacies
Non sequitur: He jumped into conclusion that Dr. Suess is not a doctor
Hasty generalization: He doesn’t give enough evidence to prove that Shakespeare is a boring author.
Dr. Suess
S- Shakespeare is better than Dr. Suess
O- Rap battle
A-William Shakespeare
P- To prove that he is the best author.
S- Dr. Suess
Logical Fallacies
Begging the question: Not proving why he thinks he’s better than William Shakespeare
False Authority: People do not know he is an actor, so his rapping lost trustworthiness.
Shakespeare
ReplyDeleteS- Dr. Seuss isn't as good as Shakespeare
O- Rap battle
A- Dr. Seuss
P- Trying to prove who is a better author.
S- William Shakespeare (George Watsky)
Logical Fallacies-
Non-Sequitar - Dr. Seuss isn't a real doctor.
Snob Appeal- Word choices used, was all pretentious.
Dr. Seuss
S- Shakespeare isn't as good as Dr. Seuss
O- Rap battle
A- Shakespeare
P-Trying to prove who is a better author.
S- Dr Seuss( The cat in the hat and Thing 1&2)
Logical Fallacies-
Begging the question- No real evidence is used
False Authority- People based off of characters, and can't be believed.
Shakespeare:
ReplyDeleteS – Who is better author and actor
0 – rape battle
A –dr. sue
P – To make dr. sue understand that he is better author and actor
S – Williams Shakespeare
Logical fallacies: rap very fast and use big word.
Non sequitur: at the time he brings up the fact that dr. sews is not a doctor.
Dr. sews
S –who is a better author and actor
O – Rap battle
A – William Shakespeare
P – To persuade that he is a better author and actor
S –the cat in hat and things 1 and 2
Logical fallacies: saying that Shakespeare is not a good actor or author
Begging the question: Dr. sews argues that he is a better author without sowing more evidence.